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FS 002| The Science Behind Brining - Four Part Video Lecture

If you're serious about being a great cook and producing a consistent product, brining is a technique you should not only use, but need to understand in intimate detail. Brining can be a complex subject, which is why this extensive resource page was created.

What is a Brine and How Does it Work?

In its simplest form, brine is a salt and water solution that food products, most commonly meats, are soaked in for a given period of time to improve the product’s overall quality. When food is brined correctly, the process yields three major benefits:

  1. Textural improvement, especially when brining proteins.
  2. Brines can and will enhance overall flavor. Not only does the salt contained within a brine help to season the food product (assuming the brine is applied correctly), but brines also commonly contain secondary flavor profiles such as herbs, spices and aromatics, that are chosen specifically to enhance the overall flavor of the food product being brined.
  3. By far the biggest reason food is brined, and that’s moisture retention. Especially when it comes to cooking lean proteins such as chicken breast, pork tenderloin and even fish, brining allows proteins to retain more moisture throughout the cooking process resulting in a moister finished product.

What is a brine and how does it work?

How Does a Brine Work?

The most conventional explanation of how brining works describes the movement of salt and water into proteins through a process called osmosis. This however is incorrect. Brining actually works through diffusion, not osmosis, and it’s important to make that distinction if we are to truly understand how a brine works.

First, lets talk diffusion.

What is Diffusion and How Does it Work With Brining?Lets assume that this yellow square in the diagram on the left represents air trapped in a vacuum. Now in this air we have dissolved gas, represented by the red dots, and at as you can see, the gas is more heavily concentrated at the bottom left corner of the square.

As the dissolved gas continues to freely move around in this vacuum of air, let’s think for a second what would happen if a gas molecule started to move towards the bottom left corner of this container. Obviously it would run into some resistance, making the probability of it freely reaching the bottom left corner very unlikely. What’s more, as this molecule comes into contact with its neighbor, it will actually ricochet off and travel in the opposite direction of which it was initially moving.

Conversely, if a dissolved gas molecule tried to move to the top right corner of the container, to an area of lower concentration, it would encounter much less resistance, so the probability of it ending up in the top right corner of this container is statistically pretty good.

This is basically diffusion in action; if given enough time, molecules will move from an area of higher concentration to an area of lower concentration, eventually achieving an equilibrium.

Osmosis on the other hand deals specifically with the movement of water from an area of higher concentration to that of a lower concentration, through a semi-permeable membrane. Now before we move on, let’s go over some quick terminology so you can better understand this process.

First, whenever you have less of something dissolved into more of something, you have a solution. So a brine can actually be thought of as a salt water solution, in which the salt is dissolved in the water. The thing you have more of in a solution, in this case the water, is the called solvent, and the thing you have less of, in this case the salt, is called the solute.

What is a brine and how does it work?

What is osmosis and how does it work?In the diagram to the right is a container of water. Now in this water we a have semi-permeable membrane (meaning some things can pass through the membrane while others can’t) and this membrane separates the water molecules into two distinct areas. On the right hand side of this membrane, we have larger solute molecules that are too large to fit through the openings in the semi-permeable membrane.

For osmosis to occur, there must be a semi-permeable membrane in which the solvent can pass through, (in this case the water) but the solute, can’t. The reason why osmosis works is because when you have billions of molecules randomly bouncing around, some of the solute molecules, (represented by the large, orange dots), will be approaching the membrane opening, while a water molecule is approaching the opening from the same side. Even though the large solute molecule isn’t completely blocking the membrane’s opening, it is still large enough to block certain approach paths. So as a water molecule starts to randomly move towards the membrane’s opening, there’s a good chance it will run into the larger solute molecule and ricochet off, never making it through to the other side.

It’s important to understand that osmosis is based purely on the probability of water’s molecular movement overtime. Because the solute molecules on the right side of the membrane are too large to pass through the membrane’s opening, it is more likely, over time, that more water on the left hand side of the membrane will pass through to the right, then water on the right will pass to the left. This process of water being statistically more likely to move from an area of higher concentration to an area of lower concentration while passing through a semi-permeable membrane is the definition of osmosis.

Understanding the Diffusion Process when Brining.So if osmosis did occur during the brining process, here’s how it would actually work: if you placed a chicken breast into a brine, the salt would be considered the solute.  That would mean, if osmosis really were at play, the water contained within the chicken breast would actually have to move outward into the brine.

To further prove that osmosis is not at play during the brining process, lets use some deductive reasoning and work our way backwards. If osmosis actually occurred during the brining process, two things would have to be true:

First, the solute, or the dissolved salt, would have to be too large to penetrate a proteins outer membrane. We know this is false because the interior of brined meat can obviously become salty.

Second, If the salt was actually too big to to pass through the protein’s outer membrane, then the moisture within the object being brined would actually flow outward into the salt water solution, since in osmosis, water will flow through a semi-permeable membrane from an area of higher concentration to an area of lower concentration.

What is a brine and how does it work?

Yet we know through basic observation that both water and salt will enter into a protein during the brining process, we can conclude that brining works through diffusion, not osmosis.

Now the natural question is, “why do we need the salt, besides the seasoning? If water moves into a protein through diffusion, why can’t we just soak a protein in water and have it become juicier?”

And the answer is, technically you can. You can soak a protein in pure water and it will swell, taking on additional water weight, but not as much water as if you add salt to the soaking liquid, and more specifically, proteins also will not bind to water as effectively during the cooking process unless salt is present. Why this actually occurs is extremely interesting, and we’ll be discussing this process in depth, in the following section.

Understanding The Brining Process

To understand how the brining process works, let's start with a pretty standard scenario, and imagine that we're brining a boneless-skinless chicken breast. To create this brine we’re going to simply add salt to some water. The amount of salt that we add isn’t important at this point; we’re going to get into actual measurements and ratios a little latter, but for the sake of this exercise, let's just assume we're adding some salt to a container of water to create a brine.

At this point it’s important to clarify that what we cooks refer to as salt, is known to chemists as sodium chloride, which is just one of many forms of salt contained within a much broader family of chemical compounds. This is important to understand because when salt is dissolved into water, it actually breaks apart into a positively charged sodium ion and a negatively charged chloride ion. The positively charged sodium ion is predominately what effects flavor, adding seasoning to the meat or making the brined meat taste salty if it’s over brined, whereas negatively charged chloride ions are what allow brined proteins to uptake more moisture.

How to brine.

What happens next is the separate sodium and chloride ions will diffuse throughout the food much like heat does during the cooking process. And just like heat will flow from hot areas to cold areas, sodium and chloride ions in a brine will flow from areas of higher concentration to areas of lower concentration.

Now it does take about 100-1,000 times longer for salt to diffuse into food than heat. This is why we can roast a pork belly in a matter of hours, but that same pork belly will take about three months for the salt to transform into pancetta.

If given enough time, the ion content of the brine and food will form an equilibrium, up to a certain point. This means, that there will be an equal amount of sodium and chloride ions inside the chicken breast as there are outside, in the brine. Once sodium and chloride ions start to diffuse into the chicken breast, something interesting occurs.

"What is a brine; muscle fiber zoom.Chloride ions, from dissolved salt, diffuse into muscle fibers and accumulate along the surface of protein filaments. As these ions increase in number, they generate a negative charge that loosens and pushes neighboring filaments apart -- analogous to the way magnets with the same polarization repel each other. The charged filaments push far enough apart that they cause the muscle fibers to swell -- if water is available to fill the space opened up in the process."

Modernist Cuisine, Volume 3, Page 154

Remember in our previous section we made the assertion that soaking meat in plain water will increase it’s water weight through diffusion but the meat will not absorb as much water compared to when salt is present? This is true because the negatively charged chloride ions create larger than normal gaps between protein fibers by first diffusing onto their surface and then repelling one another. This in turn allows extra space for additional water to diffuse into the protein being brined.

Now the naturally intuitive question arises; why do both dry salt rubs and brines yield juicier meats? In fact, there is a blatantly false culinary dogma that states salting meat before cooking will draw out excess moisture, yielding a dry, finished product.

This however is not only false, but the exact opposite of what happens when a protein is salted.

"...even if there is no surrounding water to draw in, proteins are modified by the ions in ways that cause them to bind the water in the flesh more tightly -- as well as to resist the shrinking of muscle fibers that squeezes juices out during cooking. The flesh continues to swell and bind water more tightly until its salinity increases to 6%, and then it shrinks and begins to lose water." Modernist Cuisine, Volume 3, Page 154

So at less then 6% salinity, salting meats actually prevents the muscle fibers from shrinking and squeezing out water during the cooking process. Now just to put this into perspective, the average threshold at which food begins to taste overly salted is usually above 1% by weight. So even though a protein containing 5-6% salt by weight will retain moisture while being cooked, it doesn’t necessarily mean that you want your overall salt content to be that high.

The Three Major Brining Strategies

The Three Basic Brining Strategies - Gradient, Equalibrium, Dry Brining

Now that you understand how the brining process works, we can begin to discuss various approaches. Based on what you've just learned, there are three major strategies that can be used to apply salt to proteins in an effort to enhance their flavor, texture and ability to maintain moisture.

Dry Rub "Brining"

The first approach is Dry Rub “Brining." Notice that I put the word "brining" in quotes because I am using it rather loosely. Yet as we discussed in our previous section, the addition of salt alone will allow proteins to bind more readily to water during the cooking process, so in the simplified sense that brines improve texture, flavor and moisture retention, a salt heavy dry rub can be thought of as a “dry brine.”

When making a dry brine, salt is usually mixed with other dry seasonings such as herbs and spices and rubbed onto the surface of the protein. A good starting point for the amount of salt to use is around 1% based on the protein’s weight.

The salt rub is left on for a given period of time, (anywhere from 4-48 hours), and then cooked as is, usually without being rinsed. Although this method doesn’t introduce excess water to be absorbed, the salting does allow the protein to bind moisture more tightly, yielding a moister finished product, assuming of course that the protein is cooked properly.

Gradient Brining (Traditional Approach)

Next, lets take a look at the traditional gradient method, which gets its name from the fact that a salt gradient is being used to brine the food, meaning the brine contains a much higher salt content than what you would want your finished food product to contain. When using this approach, a gradient brine will typically contain about 5-10% salt, based on the water’s weight. The food is then placed in the brine for as a little as 15 minutes and as long as a few days.

But just because you roast a piece of beef in a 500ºF/260ºC degree oven doesn’t mean that’s your desired finished temperature. Chances are you’ll be serving the beef at a much lower internal temperature or 135-160ºF/57-71ºC. Just like you’re using a temperature gradient to transfer heat to food when cooking in a high temp oven, with the gradient brining method, the same holds true with the salt content. This is why when the food product is removed from the brine, it is immediately rinsed or soaked in cold water to remove excess sodium from the surface.

This rinsing step is then followed by a resting period which allows the salt gradient to form an equilibrium as the sodium and chloride ions finish diffusion. When you pull a protein from a gradient style brine, the sodium and chloride ions will be diffused unevenly throughout the protein, with a higher concentration towards the exterior of the meat.

When the meat is rinsed and allowed to rest for a given period of time (usually a few hours to overnight), the remaining sodium and chloride ions will finish diffusing and more or less equilibrate. Interesting enough, this is the same reason why meat is rested after cooking, but again, because salt diffusion takes about 100-1,000 times longer than heat diffusion, you usually only need to rest meat for 5-30 minutes, where as a brined protein will need to rest anywhere from 2-24 hours, after being removed from the brine.

Equilibrium Brining (Modernist Cuisine)

Just like cooking in a high temp oven requires timing and intuition, gradient brining is to high heat cooking as equilibrium is to the control and precision of sous vide. And just like cooking sous vide, the equilibrium method does take longer, but is also much more accurate, taking the cook's "intuition" out of the equation. The amount of salt dissolved in the brine is only enough for the interior of the protein to reach the precise amount of salt desired, making it impossible to over brine.

Creating an Equilibrium Brine

  1. Weigh water and food together, subtracting any bone weight, since salt will not diffuse into bones.
  2. Multiply the combined weight of the water and meat by the desired finished salinty you want your protein to contain at the end of the brining process (usually .5-1% by weight).
  3. Dissolve the appropriate amount of salt into the water and place food in the brine.
  4. Use a salinity meter to take readings throughout the brining process. When the brine’s salinity drops to the desired finished salt percentage, you can conclude that your brine and food have reached a state of equilibrium and the bringing process is complete.

Now this may seem a little confusing at first, but in the following section, we’re going to explore in detail how to calculate both a traditional and equilibrium brine, which will help you better understand this process.

How to Calculate a Brine

One of the most common questions I receive about brining is "how much salt should I add to the water." As we discussed in our previous section, it really does depend on the style of the brine that you're using (dry, gradient or equilibrium), and at least for the first two approaches, little bit on personal preference as well. Understanding how to calculate the proper amount of salt will not only allow you to scale your brining recipes up and down with ease, but will also help you better understand how different salt concentrations will affect your end product.

How to Calculate a Gradient Brine

How to Calculate a Gradient BrineWhen calculating a gradient style brine, use the following formula:

Desired Brine Salinity (Salt %) X Water Weight = Salt Weight

The "Salt Weight" is then dissolved into the water and the brine is ready to use. As mentioned in our previous section, the salinity of a gradient brine is usually 5-10% salt, based on the water’s weight, and the amount of water used is typically just enough to completely submerge the product being brined.

For example, lets say we’re brining a couple of chicken breasts and we’ve determined that it’s going to take roughly 1,000g of water to comfortably cover the breasts. I want to make a 5% brine, not because it’s better than say an 8% brine, but because it’s what I’m used to using. So our formula would look like this:

1,000g Water X .05 (5%) = 50g of Salt

The 50 grams of salt is then dissolved into our 1000g grams of water, yielding a 5% brine.

By the way, when using the gradient brining method, it’s easier to always use the same strength brine and then adjust your brining times for each individual product. At Stella, we make a large batch 5% brine and use this to brine everything from chicken to pork to fish. Instead of making individual brines for each different type of protein, we’ll consistently use our 5% brine and adjust our brining times based upon the actual product that we’re brining.

How to Calculate an Equalibrium Brine

Calculating an equilibrium brine is a little more involved but just as easy with a little practice. To start, you must first take the weight of the food being brined and subtract any bone weight, since the brine will not diffuse into the bones.

Next, take the food weight (minus any bone weight) and add it to the amount of water being used. It is highly recommend that you use equal amounts of water to meat by weight, because as you’ll see in a few moments, it makes calculating an equilibrium brine much easier.

Once you’ve added the water weight to the weight of the food, simply multiply that amount by your desired finished salinity; this means that if you want your brined food product to contain one percent salt when the brining process is complete, you would multiply the combined weight of the water and food by .01 (or 1%). This equation then results in the amount of salt you need to create your equilibrium brine.

How to Calculate an Equalibrium Brine.

For example, let’s assume that we’re brining a whole, bone-in chicken with a total weight of five pounds. Since the average bone weight of a whole chicken is usually around 40%, we’ll calculate the weight of the bones as follows:

5lbs X .4 (40%) = 2lbs of Bone. Our actual flesh weight is then obviously three pounds.

Since it’s easiest to use the same amount of water when calculating an equilibrium brine, we’re going to take three pounds of water and add it to three pounds of chicken meat for a total of six pounds. Next, I’m going to decide that I want my protein to contain 1% salt when the brining process is finished (remember, you’re salt range will be half a percent on the low side to one percent on the high side). So to achieve a one percent salt content in my finished product, I’m going to multiply the combined weight of the chicken meat and water (six pounds total) by .01 (or 1%) to get .06 pounds.

As mentioned in the previous section when we outlined equilibrium brining, the salt is dissolved into the water and readings with a salt meter are taken until the brine’s salinity the desired, finished percentage. So when the salt is initially dissolved into the water, the water will contains two percent salt because it has not had any time to diffuse into the chicken flesh. Now the trick however is that salinity meters usually don’t give readings in percentages, but instead, parts per million.

This means, that if you’re using a salinity meter, it is helpful to understand how to calculate parts per million, or PPM for short.

How to Calculate Salt's Parts Per Million in a Brine

1ppm = 1 milligram per 1,000g.  To put this into perspective, 1 gram is equal to 1,000 milligrams. This means, a 1% salt water solution would be 10g (10,000mg) of salt dissolved into 1,000g (or one million milligrams of water), making the 1% percent concentration read out as 10,000 parts per million on a salinity meter.

This is why using equal amounts of water and food makes this process so much easier; when the parts per million drops to half of it’s initial reading, you know that a state of equilibrium has been reached and the food is finished brining.

So when our equilibrium brine, which in our example had an initial reading of 2% or 20,000ppm, drops to 1%, or 10,000ppm, we now know that the chicken is also at 1% salinity, because an equilibrium has been reached, and the brining process is complete. Also, a little tip that I didn't think to put in the video but was brought to my attention by one of our community members over on YouTube is that a PPM reading is still just a base 10 unit of measurement. So a neat little shortcut is to just ignore the four zeroes at the end of the PPM read out, which will leave you with just the salt percentage.

Secondary Ingredients for Brines and Speeding Up The Brining Process

Once a brine is constructed, whether you’re using the gradient or equilibrium method, any number of secondary ingredients can be added to improve the brine’s overall effect on flavor, texture and even moisture retention. These secondary ingredients are best understood when broken into their four individual categories; sweeteners, acids and bases, herbs and spices, other forms of salt.

The purpose of adding sweetness to a brine is to mask or balance the saltines while enhancing the brine’s overall flavor. Although anything that adds sweetness to a brine can be used, the most common ingredients are sugar (both white and brown), honey, corn syrup, cola and molasses. These sweeteners are usually added in a concentration of 1-5%, based upon the water’s weight. It is important to note that commonly, just enough sugar is added to balance the salt, but not enough to leave a perceptible sweetness when the brined product is consumed.

The purpose of using acids and bases in a give brine is to both enhance overall flavor and to change the protein’s texture. Common ingredients used for this purpose are vinegar, wine, citrus juice, citric acid, baking soda, lye and soda lime. Instead of a precise use percentage, enough acidic or base ingredients can added to a brine to drop the PH of the solution below 4.8, or raise it above 8.5. The acidic or base environments will break down some connective tissue and start unravel the protein strands, making the finished product more tender. When enough acid or base is added to a brine so that it effects a protein’s texture it is almost indistinguishable from a marinade. In fact, the more you dive into brines and marinades, the difference is usually based more on intent than ingredients. This is something that we will discuss in more depth at a later date.

Herbs and spices on the other hand are used specifically to add a secondary, complimentary flavor. This could really be any number of ingredients, but some common examples include thyme, cloves, cinnamon, pepper corns, bay leaf, mace, etc. You can also use aromatics such as onions, carrots, celery, peppers, etc.

Depending on the desired flavor profile and the pungency of the herb and spice, the use rate can range from half a percent to five percent by weight. For example, if using a really pungent herb like fresh rosemarry, using more than half a percent by weight can could cause the rosemarry flavor to become over bearing. However, the use percent given here should be used as a starting point, not an unbreakable law. Ultimately, you will have to base your use percentage on your personal preference and a little trial and error.

When using herbs and spices in a brine, the best way to incorporate their flavor is to first bring the water to a simmer, and then simmer or steep the herbs and spices like you’re making a tea or stock. Once the flavor is to you’re liking, pass the water through a strainer, add your salt and chill to below room temperature before using.

The infusing and straining step accomplishes two things:

  1. Since all herbs and produce can potentially have bacteria on their surface, placing them in simmering water, even for a few seconds, will essentially pasteurize them. If not pasteurized, the small amounts of bacteria could potentially turn your brine bad. This however is unlikely to occur when using a a traditional gradient brine since the salt content is high enough to kill most bacteria.
  2. The surface of meat works much like a very fine filter or sieve. This means that only the flavor compounds dissolved in the water will actually be able to penetrate the proteins surface and effect its flavor. Using heat to infuse flavors into your brine first and then straining out the ingredients will ensure a more consistent result since some flavors will continue to diffuse into your brine over time.

The final category of secondary ingredients is other forms of salt. While most brine recipes call for sodium chloride (common table salt), other salts with more negatively charged ions can be used to aid in moisture retention while minimizing the familiar salty flavor of sodium chloride.

The most notable salts that can be used to enhance a brine are calcium chloride as well as two types of phosphate salts, Sodium Tripolyphosphate and Sodium Hexametaphosphate. Both phosphate salts and Calcium Chloride have more negatively charged ions then sodium chloride, which will increase water retention.

Anyone who has ever used calcium chloride in ionic spherification, (a modern technique used to make faux caviar), knows that it can have a bitter taste. However, when calcium chloride is added to a brine in small concentrations, (usually at or below 0.03% by weight), its bitter flavor is imperceptible, but it will still add enough negatively charged ions to the brine to positively effect moisture retention.

Sodium Tripolyphosphate and Sodium Hexametaphosphate are usually used in concentrations as low as .02% to .3% by weight. These salts don’t dissolve as easily as other forms of salts, so they must first be dissolved in a small amount of warm (not hot) water before they are added to your brine formula.

Additional Ingredients for Brines and Marinades

Three Methods for Speeding Up The Brining Process

Once your brine is formulated, it does take time for your salt and other ingredients to diffuse into the product. There is, however, a few different methods you can use to speed up the brining process.

  1. Jaccard (also commonly referred to as a needler), which tenderizes meat by shortening the muscles fibers, but also allows for brines and marinades to diffuse quickly throughout the protein.
  2. A simple brine or marinade injector, which allows liquids to be injected directly into the interior of the flesh, speeding up diffusion.
  3. A vacuum tumbler which, like its name suggests, tumbles proteins and liquids together under vacuum. The combination of low atmospheric pressure (caused by the vacuum) and the tumbling process can reduce brining durations from hours and days to mere minutes.

How to speed up the brining process.

Now before we wrap this up, I want to bring your attention to the 5% Brine Chart below. This chart assumes the use of a 5% brine, and please note that the times given here are approximations. Since I use almost exclusively a 5% brine in most of my recipes and videos, you can refer to the specific recipe for more information on brine duration and its accompanying procedures. But this chart will give you some good ball park figures when it comes time for you to play around with creating your own brines.

Brining Char: How long should I brine a piece of meat?

Brine time is how long the protein should sit in the brine for. The rest time is how long the item should be allowed to rest out of the brine after being rinsed. For example, when brining a chicken breast in a 5% brine, I recommend that you brine for 4-6 hours, remove the breast from the brine, rinse, and let rest for 2-4 hours in your refrigerator before cooking.

Also, when brining the pork loin or pork chop, you can substitute 100% of the water with cola, which is pretty classic approach to brining pork. However, it’s very important to note that you SHOULD NEVER MIX CURING SALT (sodium nitrate or nitrite) with cola, because it will form a potentially lethal compound. So use regular table salt only.

Other than that, this chart is meant to be a jumping off point for you to create your own brine recipes. But please, as always, use your best judgment and feel free to tweak as necessary.

One helpful guideline to keep in mind is that the time required for brining a given protein scales approximately with the square of the protein’s thickness. So a piece of meat that is twice as thick will take roughly four times longer to brine.

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jacob burton's picture

Hey mikee,

  1. Yes, the source of the salt doesn't matter. Something like soy sauce, is typically 20% sodium, so obviously you'd need to work that into your math when creating a 5% brine (you'll need much more soy sauce than salt to create a 5% sodium brine).
  2. I don't recommend iodized salt for brining mainly because iodide will break down at high cooking temperatures. If you're brining something that you're not going to grill, sear, bake, roast, fry, etc, then iodized salt should be fine. However, I'd use the iodide salt you have to season pasta water and soup, and then make the switch to kosher salt for your all purpose cooking salt.
  3. Ahhh....it's over due for sure. Not exactly on my radar for the near future, but if you keep on hassling me, I'll get it done. Squeaky wheal gets the grease and all that good stuff...
Marco099's picture

Hi Chef,

-I thought that common table salt is what is actually recommended for most brining due to the salt's level of negatively charged ions, and furthermore, that calcium chloride and 2 types of phosphate salts are also options because of their high levels of negatively charged ions?  I thought those points were your recommendations for salt use when brining?

Your response to mikee is confusing to me because it seems to contradict this notion of using sodium chloride for brining? And, you mention using Kosher salt for all purpose seasoning - no confusion there; however, are you also suggesting that kosher salt should be used as a brining salt?

Thanks.

jacob burton's picture

@Marco099,

Salt is salt is salt...in the sense that it's all sodium chloride (forget for a second that you know about curing salts and potassium salts...all forms of "cooking salt" are just sodium chloride).

Iodized "table salt" also contains iodine, which breaks down during high temp cooking, resulting in a metalic, acrid flavor. Since most brined meats will later be cooked using a high heat technique, it's best practice to use non-iodized salt when brining.

Here's the PDF I sent out to my free e-mail newsletter, which you should subscribe to if you haven't already. This will be a little "easter egg" to reward people for reading through all these comments:

The Secrets of Salt Explained

jacob burton's picture

@VRoman,

Yes, having more salt does speed up the brining process, although you do risk making the pork loin overly salty. It will take a little bit of trial and error on your part, but if I had to guess, I would say 8 hours for a pork loin should be about right. Remember though, you'll have a higher concentration of salt on the surface, which means you'll need a longer rest time for the salt to evenly diffuse (at least 24 hours).

So even though the actual brining step will be shorter, the rest period will need to be longer for best results.

jacob burton's picture

@ E_Lye,

I'm not sure what you're arguing here. In the video I detail that brining happens through diffusion, and not osmosis. What exactly is your point pertaining to the brining process?

jacob burton's picture

I may be a little dense, but I'm having a difficult time following your argument. Let's just agree that brining your meat has a positive effect on seasoning and moisture retention.

jacob burton's picture

Hey Mogs,

The salt will initially draw moisture out of the surface, making the skin wet. The salt will then be dissolved by this moisture, and then migrate back into the meat via diffusion. Some people will salt the bird excessively, let sit and then rinse, while others will salt lightly, and let sit for a longer period of time.

Either way, the bird needs to sit in a fridge with good air circulation before being roasted. While the salt does help to dry out the skin, it's the exposure to air that's most important.

For extra crispy skin, dip the chicken in boiling water for 30 seconds, or pour a small pot of boiling water all over the skin, then cook as normal.

jacob burton's picture

Hey Rahab, welcome to Stella Culinary.

You ask a really good question, and to be completely honest, I'm not 100% sure on the answer.

All the literature I read states that the muscle fibers are pushed apart by the repulsive action caused by the negatively charged chloride ions1. I see the evidence of this when I increase the chloride ions by using sodium chloride and hexametaphosphates in my brines, which will both greatly increase the protein's ability to add water.

So clearly the sodium ions aren't negating the repulsive effect of the chloride ions, but why, I couldn't say.

Usually when I come up against a road block like this, I'll dive down the rabbit whole of Google Scholar, which allows me to search only academic papers. If you want, start popping in some of the brining terminology, and see what comes up. The material is usually pretty dense, but always a good learning experience.

In the meanwhile, I do some research on my end and see if I can come up with a more solid answer for you.

Thanks for your comment.


  1. Modernist Cuisine by Nathan Myhrvold & Chris Young, 3 * 154-158
jacob burton's picture

Hey Holly,

So to answer your last question first, the weight of your sugar and salt should be calculated based on the total weight of your brine's liquid.

You can heat your brine, but unless your rock start crystals are really big, boiling for long enough to reduce by half shouldn't be necessary. But if it is, you don't have to worry about the salt or sugar breaking down.

I would recommend getting yourself some kosher salt though, since it will dissolve easily in brines and is what I recommend as an all purpose cooking salt.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

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@ Holly,

The relevance of baking soda in brines is it raises the pH of meat. This makes the meat more tender. It also will allow the proteins to hold onto more moisture. Also, as the pH in meat is raised, it will brown easier, since the maillard reaction occurs at the intersection of pH and temperature. The higher the pH of a food item, the lower the temperature for browning.

Also, empirically speaking, I have noticed the aroma given off by roasted or seared meats that have had their pH raised by an alkaline brine/marinade are much more robust. This gives an overall better flavor in most circumstances. However, this is just my observation from doing side by side taste tests; I've yet to find scientific literature to explain why this actually occurs. It may just be a by product of the maillard reaction occurring more easily at a lower pH, but that's just a guess.

Re: Heston's Method

It's just a different approach. Basically what he's doing is brining in a fairly strong salt solution for a longer period of time. He then "reverse" brines in the sense that the chicken is soaked in fresh water, which is changed often. This has the effect of pulling a portion of the salt back out of the chicken, making it less salty, while maintaining some of the benefits of brining.

I've never tested his method because the 5% brine solution I use allows me to achieve my desired result; but different chef's will have different approaches depending on what they're desired outcome is.

Harold McGee says brining is just replacing chicken juices with tap water, what do you think of that statement.

He's technically correct to a certain extent, but I would like to see the context of this quote.

But to say it's just replacing chicken juices with tap water is incorrect. I think you can see from this series that there are more effects a brine has on a piece of protein then just water absorption and retention of water, and in fact, McGee discusses some of those effects in On Food and Cooking, on pages 155-156.

With that said, there seems to be a popular trend among many cooking communities on the internet to move towards dry salting (or dry brining), and forgoing the traditional wet brine completely. But there is a time and a place for both approaches, and I think putting yourself squarely in one camp or another is limiting your options.

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Very interesting comment Rahab. I'll have to do a some more digging on my end. I'm definitely intrigued by this question.

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Hey Ron,

We've had really good success with 0.5% baking soda by weight of the water. So our standard "alkaline brine" that we use at the restaurant is 5% salt, 3% sugar, 0.5% baking soda.

We currently do this with our pork tenderloin dish. We also ad 0.1% sodium nitrite to the brine (curing salt), which is just enough to give it a pink, rosy color and slightly hammy flavor.

We brine for about 24 hours, rinse, and then sous vide at 56C for two hours. Sear and serve. People have been loving it. The pork tenderloin comes out super juicy and tender, with an awesoe aroma.

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@ Holly,

Using a 5% brine for chicken wings, I would go maybe 4-6 hours. This is also a great time to introduce alkalinity. But yes, the reason why your chicken wings are over salty, is because they were in the brine for too long.

If the salt is not fully dissolved in the brine, then the brine will actually be less salty, not more. Just like if you put a chunk of rock sugar in your coffee, the coffee would be at it's sweetest once the rock sugar is completely dissolved.

As a side note, there's still a pretty hefty debate going on in my kitchen right now regarding chicken wings and if brining is even necessary. We'll be doing some more testing coming up, and I'll be sure to post the results.

What part of the world do you live in where kosher salt isn't available? Just curious ...

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@ Holly,

Not a silly question at all. I brine a lot of my fish in 5% brine, but only for 20-30 minutes.

The purpose of the brine is it holds in the albumin, the white fat that cooks out of fish, thus drying it out. So brine in 5% brine for 20-30 minutes, rinse, pat dry, and cook as normal.

Here's some related videos for you:

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Hey Holly,

Here's an audio response to your series of questions:

Also this is the cambro container I was referring to, and is what I prefer for brining and general food storage. But any square container made with food safe plastic will work.

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@ Celina,

Now, I know a 24 hour brine ain't gonna work.

A 24 hour brine will work if your salt content is low enough.

On their website, they claim that they marinate for 24-36 hours.

That's plausible.

Now, here is my question? You said MSG was an acid, does that mean it can be considered  a marinade? If you can marinate in msg, how do you do so?

No, because even though MSG is extracted from glutamic acid, when it's stabilized with salt, it has a pH of 7, which sets it at neutral: http://www.chemicalland21.com/lifescience/foco/MONOSODIUM%20GLUTAMATE.htm

This means it will have no effect on the pH of the brine.

Difference between marinating and brining?

They're kissing cousins. Brines specifically use enough salt to make the protein tender and allow it to hold onto moisture. Marinades use pH (both alkaline and acid), enzymes, and alcohol to achieve the same end result as a brine. Each approach has a slightly different outcome in flavor and texture, but the mechanisms are the same.

WTHeck are canes doing for 24 hours, marinade or brine?

I don't know. I've never tasted it. Try adding 0.5% MSG and 0.5% baking soda to your brine and start playing with times. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the results.

@ Holly,

What are the relevant signs of (too little time -v- too much time).
If the chicken is too watery, should I increase / decrease time. What are the other signals which are indicators to increase / decrease time? What are signals that I've brined too long / too short?

It's all about diffusion, as explained in the video. So if the longer the chicken is in the brine, the more salt and water it will contain, up until a certain point.

I know I asked this Q before but what is the absolute minimum time to brine small items such as wings? Is 4 hours the absolute minimum? I'm confused as I often see people advocating 1 hour etc?

The more salt your brine contains, the less time necessary for brining, BUT, the longer rest period you'll need to allow for after rinsing. This has to do with the diffusion process as explained in the brining video.

Is msg really this magic stuff that everybody makes it out to be or is it a myth?

It contributes to the savory flavors to a dish, but if you're basic flavor structure is flawed, MSG isn't going to magically fix that for you. Theres a good section in my F is for Flavor PDF that explains MSG in more detail.

Would a brined wing result in oil being thrown out after every 5 batches?
How many batches would you give fat that was used to confit brined chicken wings?

There are two many variables in this question to give you an accurate answer. Best approach is just to taste fat from batch to batch. If it tastes unpleasantly salty than it's time to throw it out.

I'm still not sorted on this rinsing the brine off, I find that the skin is too salty at times, even when the chicken is fine.

Ah, see, that's a great example of the diffusion process at play. The concentration of the salt will always be the strongest at the surface of the brined protein, which is why you a) rinse it, and b) allow it to rest after brining so the diffusion process has a chance to finish, and the salt gradient even out. If you don't rinse and allow for resting, then the meat will be unevenly brined.

However, how can a soak post brine be a contributing factor to juiciness. I really don't get it, do you agree with me or heston lol?

Heston uses an 8% brine, which is pretty salty. The post soak is to remove the excess salt that has diffused into the chicken, but by that time the muscle fibers have already been effected by the salt, which allows them to hold on to the moisture. For whatever reason, Heston prefers to over brine his bird, and then pull out the excess salt with a series of soaks. Why he does this, I don't know. I've seen this method quoted quite a bit, but never fully explained.

I first came across this approach in Heston's book In Search of Perfection, but he never explains why he prefers to over brine and then reduce the proteins salinity by soaking.

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@ Holly,

Start with 2 hours and see where you're at. You can adjust brine time up or down from there.

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@ Holly & Celina,

Thanks for all your great questions, here's the audio answer:

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